[Techtoolslist] wanted asteroids Signature-Analysis for the cat box

tonyhtbsusa tony at htbsusa.com
Thu Jun 16 21:16:31 EDT 2016


I have the hp sig sheet for asteroids 
How to divide them 
I used a hex calculator 
Like I said it did not have p on it 
So how can I convert the hp to Atari
I think the division is 3
Thanks tony


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Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] wanted asteroids Signature-Analysis for the cat
box

Yep you need a clock divider. There should be Docs out there with the HP
sigs somewhere.



On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 7:02 PM, John Robertson <jrr at flippers.com> wrote:

> Well, of course I could be wrong - I haven't run SA on an Asteroids 
> board in the past five or so years, and today found a good one in my 
> box'o boards and didn't need to again.
>
> I haven't used the CAT box (still have two of these - a regular one, 
> and a
> prototype) in years as I have a nice HP Signature Multimeter (5005A) 
> that I use instead when I need to run SA tests, and (AIR) I simply 
> used the Atari signature from that sheet to repair the boards. However 
> it has been years since I last tried and could easily be wrong...
>
> John :-#)#
>
>
> On 06/16/2016 4:19 PM, Tony Jones wrote:
>
>> I don't believe this is true.  Normally you need to divide the clock 
>> to use a HP but get signatures that match the Atari docs,  since the 
>> CAT box can perform a NOP in a single clock.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 4:07 PM, John Robertson <jrr at flippers.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Atari (and Kurz Kasch) used the HP signatures - so if you are not 
>>> getting the same results make sure the signatures you have are 
>>> correct for the game.
>>> It is always possible you are looking at Asteroids DELUXE signatures 
>>> for example...
>>>
>>> I am attaching some info that may help.
>>>
>>> John :-#)#
>>>
>>> On 06/16/2016 3:10 PM, tonyhtbsusa wrote:
>>>
>>>> asteroids Signature-Analysis cat box
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I dug out the cat box
>>>>
>>>> And am trying to fix a board with a problem in the state machine
>>>>
>>>> I found the hp asteroids Signature-Analysis
>>>>
>>>> But they do not match
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have the Atari cat box asteroids Signature sheet
>>>>
>>>> Also any of the   Signature-Analysis for the cat box
>>>>
>>>> Would be great also
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks tony
>>>>
>>>> hi-tech
>>>>
>>>> Arcade repair
>>>>
>>>>
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