[game_edu] Ad Hoc committee
Marc Hess
MHess at cw.edu
Sat Mar 15 10:48:09 EDT 2008
Since I don't know any of you on a personal level I can not definitively conclude whether this is a joke or not, but I do know that this list is no place for the message included below if it is for attacks or mudslinging. I'm sure that you all know each others' personal or business email addresses to facilitate your banter through.
Have a great weekend...
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From: game_edu-bounces at igda.org on behalf of Tim Langdell
Sent: Sat 3/15/2008 10:09 AM
To: IGDA Game Education Listserv
Subject: Re: [game_edu] Ad Hoc committee
I note that Brenda has excluded me from being on the ad hoc committee, despite my probably being the person who has taught longest (over 14 years), taught at both 2-year and 4-year universities and at trade schools, and taught in both the US and UK. It could not be more obvious that you are exclusing me for personal reasons and this really has to stop.
Get a life Brenda and Susan, stop excluding people for personal reasons and realise that we all have something to contribute here.
Tim Langdell PhD
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From: S. Gold <mailto:goldfile at gmail.com>
To: IGDA Game Education Listserv <mailto:game_edu at igda.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [game_edu] Ad Hoc committee
I want to thank everyone for their time and thoughts regarding the development of a checklist/stamp of approval or whatever we end up calling this. I do not want to be in the accreditation business, but in the recommendation and best practices. The goal of the SIG is to be as transparent as possible, we have no intention of trying to do something like this behind anyone's back. It is my goal to be as inclusive as possible in our growth, plans and development. As our genre grows in maturity, we need to prepare and plan appropriately. A few folks have pulled me aside, worried about the slippery slope this could be, thank you and understood. We can not ignore our responsibility, which is first to the students.
How we take these next steps is really up to the membership and the Ad Hoc committee. I have asked Brenda Brathwaite to chair the committee and we will be sending out letters to those that have applied to the committee on March 15. We are still in need of representation from community colleges, large liberal arts institutions, international institutions as well as what we consider to be vocational schools. I would like to make sure that we have fair representation in this process. We can only do that if those institutions participate, so please apply, all voices are equal in this process. The duration of the committee, unless they ask otherwise, is from mid-March to June, not a life-time commitment and yes, a great CV item, but also a big responsibility.
I am going to throw a few more email bombs out before I go offline for a chunk of time in the future, what fun to come home to so many replies, lol. Nice to see that everyone is actually reading my emails.
Thank you,
Susan
On 3/2/08 8:48 PM, "Roberts, Scott" <sroberts at cti.depaul.edu> wrote:
A good example of a school already using something like this is FIEA. They have "5 Questions to Ask" for parents:
http://www.fiea.ucf.edu/shield/showpage.php?page_id=1007
The IGDA could create our own list, with variations for different types of programs, along the lines of what we'd ask schools ourselves. This list could be widely publicized, including the Career Guide website and magazine, even guidance counselors. Schools could post the list and how they address each recommendation. I imagine that someone would create a website doing side-by-side comparisons broken down by types of school and program.
Scott
From: game_edu-bounces at igda.org [mailto:game_edu-bounces at igda.org] On Behalf Of Mark Baldwin
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:58 PM
To: 'IGDA Game Education Listserv'
Subject: Re: [game_edu] Ad Hoc committee
Hi,
(Note, I'm on board ship at the same conference as Susan. We are sailing off the coast of Cuba as I write this, and yes the ship has Internet, although it is expensive. Just talked to her and she's prepping for a presentation on the IGDA framework in a couple of hours).
I would like to put my two cents here. I don't think the IGDA has the resources to accomplish accreditation, and there are a number of big and scary problems associated with such accreditation that have been brought up by a number of individuals. But I do like Scott's comments on the idea of a published checklist that gives the prospective customer a framework from which to ask questions and make their own evaluations. This is a much more manageable goal, and one I believe could be effective yet flexible. It allows the prospective student to evaluate the school not based on a fixed criteria but instead on what the customer is interested in.
I would encourage looking in that direction.
Cheers,
Mark
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