[game_edu] Where to post academic job offers?

[Erin Hoffman]

I think the confusion was in that from what Sean was saying, the position is
being called game design but is an artist/animator position ("a term
assistant professorship in computer game design.  It's an
artist/animator/etc. position."). There is no question that a variety of
training can produce a game designer, but I don't think animation/artist
experience qualifies one to *teach* game design, which is certainly
happening in some places (though I would be surprised to see it at a place
like George Mason). But then I'm very surprised at the number of game design
instructors I've found to have no game design experience at all. Like Mark I
was curious what they're looking for, and it might be helpful to the
committee to clarify either the title of the position (game art if it is
game art, etc) or the expertise they're seeking.

--Erin

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 8:30 PM, Roberts, Scott <sroberts at cti.depaul.edu>
wrote:


>  We should be careful in limiting people due to categories.  It isn't as

> if the skills of artists/designers (creative problem solving) *preclude *someone

> from being a game designer.  What's important is that the teacher should

> have experience in game design, but game designers can come from any

> background, and they do.

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> The obvious example is Miyamoto.

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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shigeru_Miyamoto#Early_life

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> I spend a good amount of my time convincing game programmers that they can

> do visual design, so anything's possible. J

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> Scott

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> *From:* game_edu-bounces at igda.org [mailto:game_edu-bounces at igda.org] *On

> Behalf Of *Erin Hoffman

> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 19, 2008 6:47 PM

> *To:* IGDA Game Education Listserv

> *Subject:* Re: [game_edu] Where to post academic job offers?

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>

> I had the same question, Mark. I've even seen "game design" taught by

> "graphic designers" in some places, which is pretty appalling.

>

> --Erin

>

> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Mark Baldwin <mark at baldwinconsulting.org>

> wrote:

>

> Going off on a tangent here, but no one else has asked this, and I'm

> curious.  You stated you were looking for a professor of game design, but

> it

> was it is an artist/animator position.  This seems contradictory to me.

> While art skills are valuable to the game designer, they certainly are not

> required, and game design really uses other creative skills much more

> extensively.  Game design is generally not an artistic skill.  From my

> experience (25 years in industry as a designer), at least 80% of all game

> designers do not have any real experience as artist or animators.   Does

> anyone have a contradictory experience?

>

> Cheers,

> Mark

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>  Game Design and Development

>  University of Advancing Technology

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> -----Original Message-----

> From: game_edu-bounces at igda.org [mailto:game_edu-bounces at igda.org] On

> Behalf

> Of Sean Luke

>

> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:20 PM

> To: game_edu at igda.org

>

> Subject: [game_edu] Where to post academic job offers?

>

> GMU's college of visual and performing arts is soliciting for a term

> assistant professorship in computer game design.  It's an artist/

> animator/etc. position.  I am affiliated with the solicitation

> committee, but as a computer science professor rather than an artist,

> I personally was wondering where the best venues would be to solicit

> an artist in this slot.  In the CS world there are standard locations

> for placing ads for professorships.  Any guidance on the artist side

> of things for a budding program?

>

> Sean Luke

> Department of Computer Science

> George Mason University

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