[game_edu] game_edu Digest, Vol 87, Issue 10
Susan Gold
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Mon Nov 21 10:25:19 EST 2011
Reason: Faculty in other areas of the institution think your position is laughable, not worthy of tenure or respect. They refer to you as the flavor of the week.
On Nov 21, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Dr. Mike Reddy wrote:
> I'm doing a # reasons for NOT teaching game dev? Any suggestions?
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> Dr. Mike Reddy, Future Technology, Games Development and A.I., Faculty of Arts and Business, University of Wales, Newport, City Campus, Newport South Wales NP20 2BP
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> Technoleg y Dyfodol, Datblygu Gemau a D.A., Y Gyfadran Gelfyddydau a Busnes, Prifysgol Cymru, Casnewydd, Campws Ddinas, Casnewydd, De Cymru NP20 2BP
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> On 21 Nov 2011, at 15:00, game_edu-request at igda.org wrote:
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>> Today's Topics:
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>> 1. Re: The Dorklyst: 7 Reasons You Don't Want To Work in the
>> Video Game Industry (Ian Schreiber)
>> 2. Re: The Dorklyst: 7 Reasons You Don't Want To Work in the
>> Video Game Industry (Simon Etienne Rozner)
>> 3. Re: The Dorklyst: 7 Reasons You Don't Want To Work in the
>> Video Game Industry (Anthony Hart-Jones)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 07:21:45 -0800 (PST)
>> From: Ian Schreiber <ai864 at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [game_edu] The Dorklyst: 7 Reasons You Don't Want To Work
>> in the Video Game Industry
>> To: IGDA Game Education Listserv <game_edu at igda.org>
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>> I've been sharing this with students for years, but it's nice to have an article to point to :-)
>>
>> They left out an eighth reason: supply/demand forces push down salaries, so your pay will be significantly less than if you did comparable work outside the industry.
>>
>> The only one not really in my experience is #3. (Also, #1 is a bit of a misstatement: you will get "laid off" more than "fired" since firing implies termination with cause.)
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>> - Ian
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>> ________________________________
>> From: Sheri Rubin <sheri at designdirectdeliver.com>
>> To: game_edu at igda.org
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 9:42 PM
>> Subject: [game_edu] The Dorklyst: 7 Reasons You Don't Want To Work in the Video Game Industry
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>> http://www.dorkly.com/article/27379/the-dorklyst-7-reasons-you-dont-want-to-work-in-the-video-game-industry
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>> Something to share with students?
>>
>> I have lived #4 (go QA!) so many times it's not even funny.
>>
>> Sheri
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>>
>> --
>> Sheri Rubin
>> Founder and CEO
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>> Design Direct Deliver
>> Website: http://www.designdirectdeliver.com
>> Email: sheri at designdirectdeliver.com
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>> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 02:03:55 +0800
>> From: Simon Etienne Rozner <infonaut at gameonaut.com>
>> Subject: Re: [game_edu] The Dorklyst: 7 Reasons You Don't Want To Work
>> in the Video Game Industry
>> To: Ian Schreiber <ai864 at yahoo.com>, IGDA Game Education Listserv
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>> Indeed, ahh the wonderul love/hate relationship of our world...good as a link for my students (maybe now they will believe me)
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>> On Nov 20, 2011, at 23:21, Ian Schreiber <ai864 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>> I've been sharing this with students for years, but it's nice to have an article to point to :-)
>>>
>>> They left out an eighth reason: supply/demand forces push down salaries, so your pay will be significantly less than if you did comparable work outside the industry.
>>>
>>> The only one not really in my experience is #3. (Also, #1 is a bit of a misstatement: you will get "laid off" more than "fired" since firing implies termination with cause.)
>>>
>>> - Ian
>>>
>>> From: Sheri Rubin <sheri at designdirectdeliver.com>
>>> To: game_edu at igda.org
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 9:42 PM
>>> Subject: [game_edu] The Dorklyst: 7 Reasons You Don't Want To Work in the Video Game Industry
>>>
>>> http://www.dorkly.com/article/27379/the-dorklyst-7-reasons-you-dont-want-to-work-in-the-video-game-industry
>>>
>>> Something to share with students?
>>>
>>> I have lived #4 (go QA!) so many times it's not even funny.
>>>
>>> Sheri
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sheri Rubin
>>> Founder and CEO
>>>
>>> Design Direct Deliver
>>> Website: http://www.designdirectdeliver.com
>>> Email: sheri at designdirectdeliver.com
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>> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:35:13 +0000
>> From: Anthony Hart-Jones <tony at dragonstalon.co.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [game_edu] The Dorklyst: 7 Reasons You Don't Want To Work
>> in the Video Game Industry
>> To: IGDA Game Education Listserv <game_edu at igda.org>
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>> Yeah, that sounds familiar. I have seen most of them. Number 5 is
>> the only one I have not seen, surprisingly.
>>
>> #7 - I worked on a game for pre-teen girls. It actually turned out to
>> be more fun than you would have thought...
>> #2 - Nobody ever believes you on this one. I have had weeks where the
>> only thing I have had time for after work was a shower before bed...
>> #1 - Oh yes. Redundancies, 'voluntary' pay-cuts, offering to pay you in
>> shares...
>>
>> On 20/11/2011 18:03, Simon Etienne Rozner wrote:
>>> Indeed, ahh the wonderul love/hate relationship of our world...good as
>>> a link for my students (maybe now they will believe me)
>>>
>>> On Nov 20, 2011, at 23:21, Ian Schreiber <ai864 at yahoo.com
>>> <mailto:ai864 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've been sharing this with students for years, but it's nice to have
>>>> an article to point to :-)
>>>>
>>>> They left out an eighth reason: supply/demand forces push down
>>>> salaries, so your pay will be significantly less than if you did
>>>> comparable work outside the industry.
>>>>
>>>> The only one not really in my experience is #3. (Also, #1 is a bit of
>>>> a misstatement: you will get "laid off" more than "fired" since
>>>> firing implies termination with cause.)
>>>>
>>>> - Ian
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Sheri Rubin <sheri at designdirectdeliver.com
>>>> <mailto:sheri at designdirectdeliver.com>>
>>>> *To:* game_edu at igda.org <mailto:game_edu at igda.org>
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 19, 2011 9:42 PM
>>>> *Subject:* [game_edu] The Dorklyst: 7 Reasons You Don't Want To Work
>>>> in the Video Game Industry
>>>>
>>>> http://www.dorkly.com/article/27379/the-dorklyst-7-reasons-you-dont-want-to-work-in-the-video-game-industry
>>>>
>>>> Something to share with students?
>>>>
>>>> I have lived #4 (go QA!) so many times it's not even funny.
>>>>
>>>> Sheri
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *Sheri Rubin*
>>>> Founder and CEO
>>>>
>>>> *Design Direct Deliver*
>>>> Website: http://www.designdirectdeliver.com
>>>> Email: sheri at designdirectdeliver.com
>>>> <mailto:sheri at designdirectdeliver.com>
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