[PAGID] Patient question

Cowan, Mort mcowan at peds.ucsf.edu
Tue Jun 26 16:28:21 EDT 2007


I agree. We rule out hepatitis B in our patients first.

Morton J. Cowan, M.D.
Professor of Pediatrics
Chief, BMT Division
UCSF Children's Hospital, Room M659
505 Parnassus Ave
San Francisco, CA 94143-1278

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From: pagid-bounces at list.clinimmsoc.org
[mailto:pagid-bounces at list.clinimmsoc.org] On Behalf Of HOWARD M
LEDERMAN
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 1:14 PM
To: pagid at list.clinimmsoc.org
Subject: Re: [PAGID] Patient question

We have also had good experience with Rituxan in our CVID pts who have
immune cytopenias. There's probably little concern about B cell
suppression in a pt getting IVIG. However, I think that rituxan has
been associated with recurrence of hepatitis B, so I would be wary about
using it in someone who has a past hx for that.

Howard
Howard M. Lederman, M.D., Ph.D.
Professor of Pediatrics and Medicine
Division of Pediatric Allergy and Immunology
Johns Hopkins Hospital - CMSC 1102
600 N. Wolfe Street
Baltimore, MD 21287-3923
Phone: 410-955-5883
Fax: 410-955-0229
e-mail: Hlederm1 at jhem.jhmi.edu


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cowan, Mort" <mcowan at peds.ucsf.edu>
Date: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:27 pm
Subject: Re: [PAGID] Patient question
To: pagid at list.clinimmsoc.org



> We start steroids on our post BMT AIHA patients but add rituxamab

fairly

> soon as it appears to be steroid sparing. We've also found that it

takes

> a while to kick in so it doesn't replace steroids, at least in our

> hands.

>

> Mort

>

> Morton J. Cowan, M.D.

> Professor of Pediatrics

> Chief, BMT Division

> UCSF Children's Hospital, Room M659

> 505 Parnassus Ave

> San Francisco, CA 94143-1278

>

> Phone: 415-476-2188

> FAX: 415-502-4867

>

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> -----Original Message-----

> From: pagid-bounces at list.clinimmsoc.org

> [ On Behalf Of Notarangelo,

> Luigi

> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 7:40 AM

> To: pagid at list.clinimmsoc.org

> Subject: R: [PAGID] Patient question

>

> I can only comment re: strategy to treat AIHA. While we continue to

use

> steroids as firts choice, we would then definitely follow with

rituximab

> if needed, and avoid splenectomy.

> Of several severe cases of AIHA that I have seen during the last few

> years (mostly after HSCT), none has required splenectomy.

>

> Luigi Notarangelo

> Professor of Pediatrics, Harvard Medical School

> Division of Immunology, Children's Hospital

> Karp Research Building, 9th floor, Rm 09210

> 1 Blackfan Circle

> Boston, MA 02115

> USA

> tel: 617-9192277

>

>

>

> -----Messaggio originale-----

> Da: pagid-bounces at list.clinimmsoc.org per conto di Berger, Melvin

> Inviato: ven 22/06/2007 18.02

> A: pagid at list.clinimmsoc.org

> Oggetto: RE: [PAGID] Patient question

>

> I have starting hearing anecdotes about Rituxin in RA. I have not

> actually read these papers but am attaching a couple of abstracts on

> its

> use in a situation that sounds somewhat like your pt. We have been

> extremely impressed with its efficacy and lack of adverse effects in

> CVID patients with antibody-mediated cytopenias, etc.

>

> As a separate question actually, I am wondering whether we should

still

> go through the process of inducing remission (for example, for

severe

> Autoimmune Hemolytic Anemia in CVID)with steroids, then doing a

> splenectomy, vs just giving rituxin right off and leaving the spleen

> in.

>

>

> Does anyone have any idea what might be the relative effects on

future

> incidence of lymphoma ?

>

> Melvin Berger, M.D., Ph.D.

> Professor of Pediatrics and Pathology

> Case Western Reserve University

> phone 216 844 3237

>

> Director, Jeffrey Modell Center for Primary Immune Deficiencies

> Division of Allergy-Immunology

> Rainbow, Babies and Children's Hospital

> University Hospitals of Cleveland

> RB&C Rm 504, MS 6008B

> 11100 Euclid Ave.

> Cleveland, OH 44106

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: pagid-bounces at list.clinimmsoc.org on behalf of Chris Seroogy

> Sent: Fri 6/22/2007 10:42 AM

> To: pagid at list.clinimmsoc.org

> Subject: Re: [PAGID] Patient question

>

> Thank you, Mary Ellen. Here is some more information:

>

> 1. FISH was done for 22q11 deletion and was negative by report (I

will

> reconfirm that.)

> 2. CVID diagnosis based on absent IgA and poor polysaccharide

response

> (pneumovax, although isohemagglutins fair at 1:8), normal T cell

numbers

> and

> function. IgM low at 32 and patient has been on IVIG for 3 years for

> the

> laboratory values and recurrent sinusitis. So perhaps this diagnosis



> is

> "soft."

> 3. Allergy to insulin and b-lactams (desensitized to both and she has

> dexamethasone in her insulin pump.)

> 4. Several autoimmune problems: type I DM, hypothyroidism

> 5. Chronic abdominal pain with ongoing GI evaluation.

> 6. Eczema

> 7. Factor V Leiden deficiency

>

> She is (was) a very active girl and highly intelligent with many

> talents.

> Her growth has been okay.

>

> Regarding infectious work-up, she had EBV,CMV, HIV, toxo ruled out by

> PCR or

> antibody testing. Chest, sinus and abdominal CT with contrast

> unrevealing ,

> bone scan negative. The possibility of an infection was raised by

> another

> one of our colleagues and I am looking into having one of the joints

> scoped

> for fluid and synovial tissue if possible for a more definitive

> diagnosis.

> Is enterovirus a possibility and would PCR on the joint fluid provide

> the

> highest yield?

>

> I appreciate any insights/comments. Regards, Chris

>

>

>

>

>

> On 6/22/07 9:02 AM, "Conley, Mary-Ellen"

<maryellen.conley at STJUDE.ORG>

> wrote:

>

> > Hi Chris,

> > I think it might help to have a little more information about the

> patient. A

> > significant proportion of the patients with Pierre-Robin sequence

have

> > abnormalities of chromosome 22q11. Do you know if this has been

> evaluated?

> > How is her growth and development? Is she active? What are the

> immunologic

> > findings that support the diagnosis of CVID (serum immunoglobulins;

> lymphocyte

> > cell surface markers; signs of autoimmune disease etc)?

> >

> > I am not sure that I would discard infectious etiologies just yet.

> >

> > Mary Ellen

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Mary Ellen Conley, MD

> > Department of Immunology

> > St. Jude Children's Research Hospital

> > 332 N. Lauderdale

> > Memphis, TN 38105-2794

> > FAX 901-495-3977

> > TEL 901-495-2576

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: pagid-bounces at list.clinimmsoc.org

> > [ On Behalf Of Chris Seroogy

> > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 6:58 AM

> > To: pagid at list.clinimmsoc.org

> > Subject: [PAGID] Patient question

> >

> > Dear Colleagues,

> >

> > I have a rheumatologic question on a very complicated CVID patient

> and

> am

> > hoping some of you have faced this management challenge before.

This

> is a

> > 13y/o female with long-standing brittle type I DM, CVID (mostly

> functional

> > antibody production problems and IgA deficient), Pierre-Robin

> sequence, and

> > multiple drug allergies. She presented to my clinic for second

> opinion re:

> > CVID management last Fall and at that time I noted significant

> arthritis is

> > several large joints and synovitis was confirmed by MRI and several

> bony

> > erosions were seen on plain xray. Since this time, I have been

> treating her

> > arthritis (seronegative) aggressively with poor response. She is

on

> MTX and

> > humira, low dose daily prednisone. She did not respond to Enbrel

for

> 12

> > weeks, hence was switched to humira. She receives IVIG every 3

weeks

> (she has

> > problems with recurrent sinusitis.) Despite this management, she

has

> had

> > significant progression of her arthritis now involving most joints

> and

> daily

> > pain. I am not sure where to go next (thoughts are anakinra, bolus

> > steroids--although challenging with her DM.) She was seen by our

ID

> group and

> > her clinical picture/findings were not felt to be secondary to an

> infection.

> > She also had a negative bone scan. I welcome any thoughts.

> > Regards, Chris

> >

> >

> > Chris Seroogy, M.D.

> >

> > Assistant Professor

> >

> > Dept. of Pediatrics

> >

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> >

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> >

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> >

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> >

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> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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