[SBE] Who is Radiotime.com?

[Ron Castro]

Quite true Ed.  I found out that we do get aggregate listening hour "credit" for the listening they generate, however that means we also pay the additional RIAA fees and bandwidth charges they rack up for us.  Since we get our revenue from local advertisers who don't care if folks are listening outside their local service areas, the external listeners are of no use to us.

The real damnable thing is that the CEO of Radiotime is probably making $1,000,000 a year and when Google eventually buys them out, he'll walk with $100 million (remember the dMarc brothers?), meanwhile I'm busting my hump trying to pay my jocks and sales people, who are hardly getting rich.  Plus the all the costs and fees of streaming!

         Ron Castro
 Chief Technical Officer
    Results Radio, LLC
               N6IE
      www.N6IE.com


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Edwin Bukont 
  To: sbe 
  Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 11:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [SBE] Who is Radiotime.com?


  The truly bizzaroo mind warp here is that broadcasters, who fought against RIAA fees, are giving away their own product.  So let's see, you have to pay to stream someone else's content, but you give yours away?  And just because you might be able to play their content for 'free', you figure yours is too?  Don't you pay for the network access, the equipment, the rack the equipment sits in and the power to operate it?  This is exactly the high minded 'revenue (income - expenses)  be dammed, we are at war here, programming and ratings at any cost' mentality that has led to the mess this industry is in.  If you have to pay for something, why would you not charge to provide it as well?  That's like buying raw materials and not charging for the final product.  

  Edwin Bukont CSRE, DRB, CBNT 
  Comm-Struction and Services LLC 
  V- 410.879.5567 F- 410.272.5750 C- 240.417.2475 

  ebukont at msn.com 
  A Harris Broadcast Channel Partner 




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  Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:12:18 -0700
  From: darryl.mcg at klewtv.com
  To: sbe at sbe.org
  Subject: Re: [SBE] Who is Radiotime.com?


  Its great that you think it OK for someone else to stream your content without your permission or negotiating any form of compensation for the content, but, most broadcasters are in the business to make money and letting someone else use your content without the benefit of compensation is little more than theft. A stream is a revenue source and the originator of the content has a right to be compensated for it.



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    From: sbe-bounces at sbe.org [mailto:sbe-bounces at sbe.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Tarr
    Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 9:48 AM
    To: Ron Castro; sbe member discussion mail list
    Subject: Re: [SBE] Who is Radiotime.com?


    We're actually happy that Radiotime is doing it. 


    They have a great iPhone app that offers streams from all over.  It includes our logo, and information on the station/DJ.  Our opinion is that since we offer the stream for free through our site, why not have people use that like elsewhere if it means being able to stream our stations on a variety of devices.  It creates plenty of goodwill, and even more ears.


    I would say that instead of involving attorneys and riot-act reading, take a look at the benefits.  If you don't see any, then politely ask them to take the links down.  It's been great for us and our listeners.




    On Oct 23, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Ron Castro wrote:


      I did a Google search on one of my radio stations earlier this week and found that my Liquid Compass Internet stream was being pirated by some outfit called Radiotime.com.  Further investigation found that they were re-streaming all 12 of our stations even though they never asked or got permission!  Does anyone know anything about these guys?  I haven't called them yet to "read them the riot act" and I have not yet contacted our attorney...I just wanted to hear what other folks in the industry have to say.

               Ron Castro
       Chief Technical Officer
          Results Radio, LLC
                     N6IE
            www.N6IE.com


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